Menders: Love & Leadership in Health Systems

5. Burnout, moral injury, and radical caring with Dr. David Kopacz

May 09, 2022 Nicola De Paul Season 1 Episode 5
Menders: Love & Leadership in Health Systems
5. Burnout, moral injury, and radical caring with Dr. David Kopacz
Show Notes

Dr. David Kopacz is a Seattle-based psychiatrist and integrative medicine physician.

Throughout his career, Dr. Kopacz has studied burnout, physician wellness, and moral injury.

This episode discusses how both burnout and moral injury have their roots in systemic challenges.  Dr. Kopacz also shares his perspective on the costs of caring in our current health system and how healthcare organizations have developed the bad habit of taking advantage of clinicians' professionalism by expecting clinicians to go above and beyond their duties to care. Our current system does not prioritize care and compassion for clinicians or patients.

On a hopeful note, incentivizing caring for all people within the organization – from housekeeping to leadership – may allow us to create a collective commitment to supporting the humanity of our healthcare system.  It is time that we commit to radically caring for each other as we rebuild caring healthcare systems.

Dr. David Kopacz - Bio -   

Additional Resources:

Michelle Barton - Stop framing wellness programs around self-care -

Sara Berg - Physician Burnout -

Dr. Glaucomflecken -

David Kopacz - Rehumanizing Medicine -

Danielle Ofri - The business of medicine depends on exploiting doctors and nurses -

Tzreciak & Mazzarelli - Compassionomics -

ZDoggMD - It's not burnout it's moral injury - 

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